Three surfers, three countries, and one shared love for the ocean. Episode 4 of season 3 of the ThankYouSurfing podcast features Ale from Guatemala, Katrina from Latvia, and Nette from the Netherlands. Though they didn’t grow up surfing in their homelands, they’ve found a community in the global surf scene. Live from El Zonte, El Salvador, this episode starts a bit quirky, gets hilarious, and wraps up with some genuine surf wisdom. Hosted by Brad Wells, we dive into their unique surfing journeys, the diversity of surf cultures worldwide, and the impact of wave pool technology. From Guatemala’s emerging surf scene to Latvia’s growing surf towns, we explore localism, the future of surfing, and what surfing means in different parts of the world. Sponsored by BryteBox Marketing, IMAIM Capital, and Team Key Aquatics, this episode offers a rich conversation packed with insights, laughter, and a celebration of the global surfing community. Plus, stay tuned for behind-the-scenes moments that might drop soon!
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[00:00:00] Intro: Welcome to another episode of the Thank You Surfing podcast. Today’s episode is sponsored by BryteBox [00:00:19] Sponsors: Marketing for design, architecture, and hospitality. I’m aim capital experts in revitalizing Miami’s urban multifamily real estate, and team key aquatics, fostering growth and excellence in aquatic sports. [00:00:36] Brad: Today is June 3rd, 2024. I’m Brad Wells from Thank You Surfing. Uh, we’re in El Zonte doing season three. This is episode four, I think, of the podcast. And, uh, yeah, I’m glad to be joined by my friends and we’re going to be talking about surfing like we always do. And who do I have [00:01:00] today? I’ve got [00:01:00] Ale: Alejandra, Aleoceans on my social media. [00:01:06] Brad: Uh huh. It’s like you almost forgot your name there for a second. My name is, uh, uh, uh, I mean, what was I supposed to say? Uh, Instagram and I was supposed to talk about my name and at the same time, okay. All the oceans on the Instagrams, Alejandra in real life. Yeah. That’s what we’re going with. [00:01:32] Katrina: Yeah. Yeah. [00:01:35] Ale: That’s how we know her. [00:01:37] Brad: And. Who else are you repping? [00:01:40] Ale: And I have, what do you mean? [00:01:42] Brad: I don’t know, like, you know. Who are you out here for? [00:01:46] Ale: I’m here with my friends. [00:01:47] Brad: Uh huh, you wanna drop the sponsors? You wanna, whatever you [00:01:51] Ale: need? I don’t [00:01:53] Brad: know, it’s up to you. Alright, up next. My wish list [00:01:58] Katrina: of the sponsors [00:02:00] is [00:02:00] Brad: There you go, that’s even better. [00:02:02] Brad: What do you want to say? [00:02:03] Katrina: Yeah. Um, so yeah, next to Alejandra Ale Oceans, uh, is, uh, Katrina. Um, no sponsors, just Katrina. Yeah. But you got a business, right? What’s that? Yeah, I have my business. It’s a training development consultancy. It’s called light to up basically. We do research. [00:02:25] Brad: I’m a thank you surfing podcast. [00:02:30] Brad: Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. [00:02:32] Katrina: And yeah, and I have another blondie next to me. [00:02:36] Nette: We’re not sisters. We could be. But my name is Nette, and I, well, I guess my business is surfing your fears. [00:02:48] Brad: Surfing your fears. You have a business called Surfing Your Fears. And we’re gonna talk about that later. Maybe [00:02:53] Nette: we can, maybe [00:02:55] Brad: Uhhuh Ali, you talk about something else now that you know how we’re doing this now, [00:02:58] Ale: now that I know how we’re doing this because [00:03:00] I was like, [00:03:00] Brad: I’m Brad from Thank you Surfing. [00:03:02] Ale: I know. I, I had a glass of wine and I normally get drunk with wine, glass of wine. So, so here you are. Okay. So, um, I’m Alejandra, I, I am also a consultant for Environment. Uh, environmental stuff, compliance with government and other like clients and stuff like that. And I’m also a surfer representing my country, Guatemala, in longboarding and shortboarding internationally. [00:03:37] Ale: And currently, currently national champion for longboarding. [00:03:42] Brad: That is incredible. Welcome to the show, ladies. This is exciting. Um, so today is really like all the other episodes. We’re talking to you guys about surfing and what it means to you. Um, so my questions are really broad and they’re meant to be that [00:04:00] way. [00:04:00] Brad: Um, so first question coming up here is what’s it like where you come from the surfing scene? [00:04:08] Katrina: What surfing scene? [00:04:09] Brad: In Latvia there is no surfing scene. There you go. [00:04:13] Katrina: Um. [00:04:14] Brad: I knew that was gonna happen. Yeah. That’s why I was like this is a perfect answer. Alright. [00:04:19] Katrina: Yeah. It’s basically extended to 30 people maybe. [00:04:24] Katrina: Sick scene. Yeah. No. Yeah. 1630. 16. [00:04:28] Brad: No, I said that’s a 16. [00:04:30] Katrina: That’s a good. Ah, 16. I was like 16 sexy. 16 scene . Yeah. 60 16 scene. Yeah, it’s um, it’s probably just starting ’cause people are traveling more, but yeah, I’m from Lavia so I basically probably didn’t know what is surfing. I don’t even know when did I found that out about it. [00:04:49] Katrina: Like, I guess, Oh yeah, I remember there was this old guy and I was wake surfing behind the boat and he was like, Oh, I see it in your eyes. You’ll surf one day. And I was like, okay, are you [00:05:00] serious? Yeah, no, that’s a true, that’s a true thing. Like I was a teenager and I was like, Oh, I think so. Because I like board sports. [00:05:07] Katrina: And then I kind of like, I don’t know. I learned about it through movies and stuff. And okay. [00:05:11] Brad: What movies? [00:05:12] Katrina: I have no clue. [00:05:13] Brad: Really? Come on. I don’t remember some of them. [00:05:16] Katrina: I think so. I think so, but I don’t know. Like, I just like to learn about it. That [00:05:21] Brad: definitely was a global phenomenon. No, in [00:05:23] Katrina: Latvia, we also did not have global phenomenon. [00:05:26] Katrina: It’s more likely we had a telenovela from Guatemala. Global [00:05:37] Ale: phenomenon! [00:05:41] Brad: Marimar! Okay, Ale, what was it like where you were growing up? What was the surf scene like? [00:05:45] Ale: So also it was very like growing up, like without saying my age or anything, but like, no, growing up there was no much [00:06:00] surfing scene, even though, yeah, we had Gio and Waimea that are the first surfers in Guatemala and they were kind of like everyone’s uncle. [00:06:09] Brad: What year, like, did they start surfing? Eh, [00:06:11] Ale: I don’t have no idea. I should know, but I don’t know. [00:06:14] Brad: How old are those guys? [00:06:16] Ale: Uh, Waimea passed a few years ago. And Gio is probably 65, around. Yeah, they say 64 last year, cause he was competing. [00:06:30] Brad: Still competing. Yeah. That’s sick. [00:06:31] Ale: Yeah. [00:06:32] Brad: All right. So let’s just say that he started surfing somewhere, like in his teenage or twenties or something like this. [00:06:38] Brad: So that’s like 40 or 50 years of surfing and go out there. Wow. I had no idea that it was that recent. [00:06:44] Ale: Yeah. [00:06:46] Brad: That’s pretty nuts. Yeah. [00:06:47] Ale: And I mean, [00:06:48] Brad: Latvia is like even more recent. They’re like, Hey, um, like last week we had a guy paddle out. We just saw it. It was the first time. [00:06:58] Brad: And you, Naté, what was it [00:07:00] like? [00:07:00] Nette: Uh, where I grew up was, there was no ocean. [00:07:05] Brad: But, like, there was a surf scene? Like, like, how? [00:07:08] Nette: Nah, but There was a surf [00:07:09] Brad: scene, like, everywhere, because of movies and culture. [00:07:11] Nette: Yeah, I think it was always there, I just didn’t know about it. [00:07:15] Brad: Uh huh. [00:07:15] Nette: I don’t know how long in Holland already people surf, but I think at least 30, 40 years. [00:07:22] Nette: No, longer, I guess. I don’t know. I [00:07:23] Katrina: mean when I lived in Holland, no longer longer like eight years ago I didn’t know that you can surf there And I lived there for four years. I mean there were surfers, but like it wasn’t you know spoken I think in the last 10 [00:07:38] Nette: years it has grown a lot and it’s like there’s this one spot in holland That’s the most famous and it’s oh, I know about that spot. [00:07:46] Nette: It’s crazy You don’t even see waves and there’s like 200 people like Waiting for that. [00:07:53] Brad: What are they doing? I mean, they’re waiting for it. And it gets good. I’ve seen pictures of it. Yes, [00:08:00] [00:08:00] Nette: it can get good. [00:08:01] Brad: Um, I mean, I grew up surfing a lot of wave starved regions, and so I know what it takes to like be very dedicated to the spot and like know the weather patterns. [00:08:10] Brad: Those are the real surfers. I mean, I don’t know about that. It’s like you really, really want to surf. I don’t know if we surf that much, but people like us definitely Definitely want to surf. Uh, it’s, it’s a different breed for sure. You’re like, it’s knee high and you’re so happy. Um, okay. Um, so this is kind of interesting then because there was like no surf scene where you grew up and there was no surf scene where you grew up. [00:08:41] Brad: And then did you grow up surfing in your own scene or did you grow up surfing in a different scene? And like these guys definitely did. [00:08:48] Ale: I grew up surfing in Guatemala. I mean, I didn’t grow up surfing often, but I did start boogie boarding. Like my parents, best [00:09:00] friends had five boys and I had a brother and a sister, but I was like very close. [00:09:06] Ale: Like my sister was younger. So I was always hanging out with six guys that would push me into surfing. Boards and whatever, you know, like, so they took, they actually got, like, got me in Estapa into boogie boarding. Uh, when I was young. Gateway [00:09:27] Brad: drug to surfing. We all know that. [00:09:30] Ale: And then I, I surfed again with a, with the, my first start bombarding or whatever was in Marina. [00:09:39] Ale: He’s waving. Oh, [00:09:41] Brad: spot trapping. Oh my God, the first spot you ever dropped and the first spot you ever served. That’s a major infraction. Okay, so yeah. Caleb, edit that out. [00:09:51] Ale: Okay, okay, okay. I’m just [00:09:52] Brad: kidding. You named a marina. That’s really not a big deal. [00:09:57] Ale: And then, eh, [00:10:00] And then I, when I, yeah, and then I started like. [00:10:05] Ale: Okay, [00:10:05] Brad: so that was it. You were like, The local, like, friends, family, you guys were all hanging out together. They’re like skating and whatever and surfing. And then you’re like, Oh, I want to do that. And then next thing you know, you’re like getting pushed into waves. How the freak did this happen for you guys then? [00:10:20] Brad: Because this is probably not your story. [00:10:23] Katrina: She’s like, ahem, [00:10:24] Brad: here comes the story. [00:10:26] Katrina: Yeah, no, like, I mean, uh, when I started living in Holland, but, uh, yeah, I was working and studying full time, so there was not a lot of daylight to spend outside, but I went on holidays like once a year, but you know, like, you can’t really surf once a year to learn. [00:10:43] Katrina: Um, yeah. But, um, yeah, I always knew it’s going to happen at some point. And then Mr. or Mrs. COVID came. Thank you COVID. I got stuck outside of Kuwait where I used to be living, uh, back then. And I just was like, okay, this country is opening. That [00:11:00] country is opening. So I was just like jumping from country, country, learning to surf. [00:11:05] Brad: Your surf story is like guy in a boat says while you’re surfing, you’re going to go surf. And then you get stuck in Kuwait and then COVID, and then you just like, [00:11:15] Katrina: Yeah, I just surfing, start traveling and, and I worked remote and I started like traveling for a year. Um, and like, yeah, being a lot of hours in the water. [00:11:24] Katrina: And then now it’s four years later. The last three years has been like on and off time, but now I’m working full-time remote, so I’m super dedicated. And actually in that covid year, I met Ally in Guatemala, , where I was like, just. Surfing my brains out, like trying to learn this sports, right, that I was so passionate about. [00:11:47] Katrina: Yeah. And then actually like three years ago or something, I, yeah, like, yeah, three years ago I had booked a flight to El Salvador and then a friend from Australia told me about these salty, [00:12:00] salty surf sisters, salty, [00:12:01] Nette: salty souls. [00:12:04] Brad: These are all attributes. I think you probably put into the brand. Yeah. And he was [00:12:07] Katrina: like, if you go there, you have to meet these girls. [00:12:09] Katrina: Right. And that’s how I learned actually about netty and now three years later, I actually am here. Because back then I had to cancel my flight to El Salvador, but now three years later, I’m here I meet Ale again that I met in Guatemala and I meet And Nicaragua accidentally eight months ago in the water. [00:12:29] Katrina: I was just like I think I met you in Guatemala like three years ago. Yeah. And then Nettie here. I mean, I’ve stalked her for a while on Instagram and then three years later, here she is. Are you very, like, feel very accomplished [00:12:50] Brad: that you’re stalking like has come out in this regard? [00:12:53] Katrina: Oh, well, it’s, you know, it’s quite [00:12:55] Brad: an accomplishment. [00:12:56] Brad: It’s [00:12:56] Katrina: just, it’s just to kind of warn the other people I’m stalking. So you [00:13:00] watch out. [00:13:03] Brad: So the stalking occurs and then you wind up on the couch next to them. Yeah. Congratulations. Like you were, I mean, I [00:13:08] Katrina: feel like Nettie’s now a little bit considering me staying at her place, [00:13:15] Katrina: but it’s okay. Maybe let’s better focus on Nettie’s story before I sound like a creep. [00:13:25] Brad: That water. That’s a perfect segue. So , so how the hell did it happen for you? Where did you like wind up starting to surf? [00:13:32] Nette: Uh, for me it was maybe I was 17 or 18 Uhhuh and I had my first summer job on one of the islands of Holland Uhhuh, [00:13:43] Brad: and they [00:13:44] Nette: opened a surf school there. I was cleaning toilets. [00:13:48] Brad: At a surf school. [00:13:49] Brad: No, [00:13:49] Nette: on the campsite. But they open a surf school and then we just tried it once. Like surfing with my colleagues. We’re like, let’s try it out. And I think I was the only one who was [00:14:00] like, this is cool. [00:14:01] Brad: No way. Really? [00:14:02] Nette: And so I would try and like go whenever I had time off, but whenever I had time off, it was flat, [00:14:09] Brad: really. [00:14:11] Nette: Yeah. Especially this summer. Like it was not, yeah. [00:14:14] Brad: So [00:14:15] Nette: then. I didn’t know what to study after high school, so then it kind of just became my, I was like well then I’ll just go learn surf. I thought it would just be for a year, to like go and like get a little better at surfing and then I would know what to study. [00:14:35] Brad: You keep just studying surf. [00:14:37] Nette: Yeah, I guess. I did do a winter season, like snowboard season. Teaching as well in the winter. Studied snowboarding. Check that. And so then I realized I really like teaching. So then it was like, okay, I like teaching. I like snowboarding. I like surfing. I just need to become good enough to be able to teach surfing. [00:14:56] Nette: And here she [00:14:57] Katrina: is teaching a girl from Latvia. [00:15:00] Is [00:15:00] Brad: that really how this is happening now? Oh yeah. [00:15:04] Katrina: We had a first lesson, like first video analysis today. [00:15:07] Brad: That is [00:15:08] Katrina: girl power. When I send you the photo. [00:15:10] Brad: That. Oh, that was what was going on, Uhhuh. [00:15:12] Katrina: That is, that was what was going on. What were you thinking about ? I thought you guys were having a work workout or something. [00:15:17] Katrina: A picture with three girls. Oh, okay. Yeah. So yeah, after [00:15:20] Nette: that I just started going places where waves were better and I would just try and get any job. Didn’t really Just to surf. Yeah. Or try I, I wouldn’t call it surfing . It was not very successful, [00:15:36] Brad: but we all know what that’s like. [00:15:38] Nette: Uh huh. . So [00:15:39] Brad: the thing that’s really interesting, um, I mean, even your stories to a certain extent, um, just like growing up serving Guate, but then I know you also served here a lot, um, in El Salvador and all of my questions and like all of my stuff that I did with Chris about the podcast focused on our local [00:16:00] community, Miami, like I was telling you guys before, but. [00:16:01] Brad: It also sort of like assumed that you grew up surfing where you lived and where you grew up. Um, and like the more I’ve talked with other people, like that’s not the case. I don’t know. I don’t know if it’s like not the case anymore or if it was never the case. I’ll have to figure that one out by like doing some research or asking more people or something. [00:16:26] Brad: But yeah, this is like a very new phenomenon for me because. Like stuff like localism like how the frig are you guys locals anywhere if you like Nowhere [00:16:39] Nette: never [00:16:40] Brad: yeah, I mean I’ve been traveling a lot of my life now, and I’ve lived in different places and Like I yeah like localism is for people that don’t leave for something I don’t know. [00:16:52] Brad: It’s um, [00:16:53] Katrina: it’s a really tricky one. I guess like the first time as well when I learned like what is localism. I mean I’ve always been very [00:17:00] respectful in water. I mean in general, right? But I was also like one time wondering and and I had this discussion with the local guy in Fuerteventura in Canary Islands and I was telling him so What do you suggest me to do if I’ll never, ever be a local anywhere? [00:17:17] Katrina: Because like the world becomes more open, right? Like we are, we are expats and we are locals anywhere and everywhere. Right. Like, or good [00:17:26] Brad: luck with that. [00:17:27] Katrina: I mean, in general, I mean, it’s, it’s still far away from that. Right. But even like somebody else goes for a job somewhere else. Right. Like, so. you want to have that job, right? [00:17:39] Katrina: So like you hope that it’s not going to be a localism, right? Like to get something anyways, it’s like, it’s a very complicated question, but what was the question again? Like how else, like, how can somebody from Latvia be a local anywhere? Because [00:17:58] Brad: yeah, if you like, I’ll [00:17:59] Katrina: never be a [00:18:00] local. [00:18:01] Brad: Like, okay, if you grew up surfing in Guate, like that’s the only place you can be a local, right? [00:18:07] Ale: But girls have superpowers. [00:18:12] Brad: Okay, that’s uh, Like we have [00:18:15] Katrina: privileges, you know, like [00:18:16] Ale: I want [00:18:17] Katrina: to ask that chat GPT Does girls have privileges in [00:18:23] Ale: surfing? No, but seriously No, I know what you mean You But also if you, I feel, it depends where, obviously like Well the localism [00:18:33] Brad: thing, hold on, let me just like preface this by saying this, the localism thing is like only one piece of this, because all the rest of my questions are like, assuming that you grew up in a certain area and you could speak to, like, what is it like there, where you grew up? [00:18:46] Brad: Is like your scene diverse? Um, is there a big culture of it? Is it a small scene? What is that scene like? And it’s like, your scene is not A local scene from like where you grew up. It’s, I don’t know what the [00:19:00] hell it is. And this is why it’s sort of confusing and interesting. Like, what’s your, like, what do you associate with like your surf culture? [00:19:08] Brad: Like, or you’re like, you’re like the things that make up surfing for you. [00:19:15] Ale: Oh, wait, one at a time. [00:19:20] Brad: So that’s a, like, You did not grow up surfing where you lived and you have surfed in many different places. So like, my question is like, is the surfing scene diverse [00:19:32] Nette: in different places? [00:19:34] Brad: I don’t know. Cause like, it’s easy for me to ask people, like, if you grew up like in La Libertad, I can be like, what’s your surfing scene like in La Libertad? [00:19:43] Ale: Then if you’ve been to Indonesia, Portugal, and you don’t associate [00:19:48] Brad: with a locality anymore, you’re just like, So I have to like change my questions and it’s hard for me to understand like how to even ask you guys these questions. It’s like, okay, like what’s [00:20:00] surfing is serving diverse in your opinions. I think yes, [00:20:04] Nette: but I feel it’s changing and it really depends on where you are. [00:20:09] Brad: Okay. So tell me how is it different in different places? But [00:20:12] Nette: I think now with all the wave pools coming up, you see like there’s a lot of rich, rich Like more like the higher class people who can like do that. You are way fools. Yeah, so that makes that even like countries who don’t have an ocean, like the rich kids can still surf. [00:20:31] Nette: Like rich people, I think. And then they will come like wherever they want to go travel. And so from like countries that are don’t really have an own surf scene because they don’t have an ocean. I think now their surf scenes From like the wave pools that are very rich or like at least like the higher class people because they can afford it. [00:20:56] Nette: And so that I think, so [00:20:59] Brad: have you like [00:21:00] witnessed this that like people that grew up serving in wave pools or like coming to serve in the ocean with you? [00:21:05] Nette: I think you’d even see it here. It’s like people who, I don’t know, are just landlocked people, but then they can serve now. [00:21:13] Brad: Uh huh. Yeah. I mean, And then locals, [00:21:18] Nette: like locals, I think will always be way more diverse and it could be like the poorest people, but also more the richer. [00:21:28] Brad: Okay, so I asked this question very like sneakily. I say like diverse because like diversity can mean a million different things. I went the poor and rich part. But you also went like artificial wave pool, which is like a whole other cool, like, yeah. Yeah. It’s a, it’s a thing now for sure. So yeah, I [00:21:47] Nette: think like tourists will be a lot more like higher class, but locals can be anything like, but you will not see like very poor people travel the world and go [00:22:00] surf everywhere. [00:22:02] Brad: Yeah. I mean, yeah. Well, I mean, lower socioeconomic like classes generally don’t travel as much. Um, that’s for sure. Um, and there’s another interesting part of it though, uh, Um, there’s this girl that I think I mentioned this on the podcast once before, there’s a girl from China. That’s like a super sick snowboarder. [00:22:23] Brad: And she’s like, I don’t know, nine years old or something like that. And she just does like the nasty [00:22:29] Nette: brown. [00:22:30] Brad: No, [00:22:30] Katrina: that’s she’s British. No, she’s Japanese. I mean, Japanese British. [00:22:34] Brad: Okay, well, maybe there’s like a whole bunch of these little girls now. But like, you watch them hit these kickers, and you’re like, there’s no way. [00:22:42] Brad: This is like a tiny human being, and they’re flying like hundreds of feet through the air. [00:22:47] Ale: But China doesn’t have snow? [00:22:49] Brad: No, they have snow. They had the Winter Olympics there not so long ago. But they actually like manufactured. There’s no for it. That’s a whole other podcast. Go, go to like an Olympic snowboarding podcast or something. [00:22:59] Brad: [00:23:00] Um, but this girl is like sick at snowboarding and they put her in a wave pool. And of course she’s nasty at surfing like this, you know, because she’s getting the repetitions and she just like sees it like she sees like a kicker and a half pipe or whatever. It just, she just like hits that section and that section is available time and time and time again in a wave pool. [00:23:21] Brad: And they’re like, yeah, well, like maybe she’s going to be like a surfer and it’s like, Whoa, who’s teaching her how to like read the ocean? Like the first time she gets like worked by a set, like what’s going to happen to this poor little girl. And that, that is like, that is a truth that I think that surfing has now is like, okay, that we are making access to like surfing, or at least like. [00:23:47] Brad: The gymnastics part of surfing or like the aerial part of surfing or like whatever, like the snowboard park is, or the snow, like half pipe, like that part is like replicatable in a pool now. And generally, I think like people that have [00:24:00] more money can do that part. Have I seen those people in the ocean? I don’t, I don’t know, maybe a little bit. [00:24:07] Katrina: No, like when I, when this year and I say, uh, surfing games, right. When I went to represent Latvia, I think. South Korean team, all of them were like, so where do you practice surfing? Wave pool. Yeah, South Korean team. Yeah, like they have a wave pool and they all go and practice there. But I mean, they, they were able to read ocean. [00:24:31] Katrina: So obviously they have practices abroad as well. But their main surfing spot. [00:24:37] Ale: Pipeline. Because [00:24:38] Katrina: when I asked them, so where do you surf in South Korea, they are like, [00:24:41] Brad: wave pool. I’m confused. This, this podcast is going off the rails. Like, I was like, are we beeping like wave pools now? Is that where we’re at? [00:24:50] Brad: Like, please censor out the wave pools. Um, but wow, um, that is really wild. But do they surf in the ocean too? [00:24:59] Ale: Yeah, [00:25:00] they even have their nationals. They had their last nationals. I saw the longboard national champion at the wave pool. I was like [00:25:07] Brad: Yeah. This is really wild. Okay. [00:25:12] Ale: I didn’t know they did that often. [00:25:14] Ale: I thought it was like a one time. [00:25:16] Katrina: No, they just, that’s where they’re like, are practicing. Yeah. [00:25:22] Brad: Okay. [00:25:23] Katrina: Yes. Okay. [00:25:25] Brad: Um, wow. I, yeah. But you know, it’s like there is [00:25:29] Katrina: a surf scenes growing around like the world. For instance, when I like grew up in Latvia, we have a long coast, right, but it’s kind of flat back then. [00:25:38] Katrina: Nobody would try to surf. Right. But now we come back with the knowledge from abroad and we are like. Starting to, oh, recognize like, hey, we have even like a surf town now in Lavia because sick, like, you know, what does it have, [00:25:52] Brad: how do you know it’s a surf town? [00:25:53] Katrina: Because there is a surfboard rentals, , [00:25:56] Brad: that’s it. [00:25:57] Brad: Uhhuh. And [00:25:58] Katrina: there is surf lessons, [00:26:00] right? And [00:26:00] Brad: surf lessons and foamies. That’s what makes a surf town and [00:26:03] Katrina: right, but like nobody would learn before. And you know, back then as well, like the traveling was not so exposed. And then, you know, there’s now sessions. I don’t know, maybe. I mean, I don’t live in Latvia, um, anymore, but I mean, there’s also short boarders going in, right? [00:26:20] Katrina: But it’s because you are coming back with the knowledge, right? Of like, what can and cannot be possible in a water. I mean, it’s still far away from you being able to become a good surfer just by living in Latvia, right? But you can learn to pop up now. I mean, we have now the foamy boards are better, right? [00:26:41] Katrina: Like there is some sort of a knowledge. Um, so the surf, the surf towns are around. The world are growing in places you would never imagine having them before. Right. But I [00:26:53] Ale: want to say that now that you said that in Guatemala, the surfing scene was very [00:27:00] different in that sense because we never had like back then we never had like surfboard rentals. [00:27:06] Ale: Or because no, like there was no tourism at the beach and like nobody in Guatemala could afford a surf lesson. So like if you had the chance to surf was because like someone lend you a board or like literally like, [00:27:28] Brad: okay, well my first, yeah, my first surf. There was no rentals. What was your first surf? [00:27:33] Brad: Someone loaned you a board? [00:27:34] Nette: No, it was in a school. In the, oh, [00:27:37] Brad: that’s right. [00:27:37] Nette: Brad’s not listening. Sorry. Oh my gosh. [00:27:43] Brad: I got a little excited about that topic because I thought everyone was gonna say it, and I just Glasses right, right through [00:27:48] Nette: from I got a lesson. [00:27:50] Brad: Yeah. From a friend, . [00:27:51] Nette: No, it was actually in the school, but only one, I think. And then I just tried it by myself. [00:27:59] Ale: Yeah, [00:28:00] I also had one, like at one point after I already did the foamy and I had like one lesson and then a friend of mine took me surfing like a few times. [00:28:14] Ale: And then I started working in a surf shop in Guatemala City, two hours away from the beach and bought the surfboard. I got started in. And then, [00:28:25] Brad: and then, okay. So traveling around to all these different places. Now, do you like, you see big differences in like the different like surf scenes? [00:28:36] Katrina: Yeah, definitely. [00:28:38] Katrina: I mean, There are, there are a lot of surprises, for instance, I don’t know. I just, [00:28:43] Brad: this sounds good. Like, no, [00:28:45] Katrina: as in like, you know, for instance, you would think, okay, I’m going to a place that is like super popular for surfing and I’m going to see like so many girls in the water, Brazil or something, right. [00:28:56] Katrina: And like you go and there’s actually maybe not so many, but [00:29:00] then I go, I just came back from a freaking cold Canada. And. I’m just seeing constantly insane amount of girls in the water and sometimes like and most of the times more than the guys and you’re like what in this cold freaking place there are so many girls surfing when you go to a warmer place and there is none or I think it’s also depending on a break like the type of the wave, you know, like how intense the crowds are. [00:29:28] Katrina: So like, it’s like, geographically, like, you know, where, where is the place located or, or how heavy is the tourism, you see the difference, you see the difference based on the infrastructure around you, like how many acai bowl places are there, you know, it’s like, there’s a lot of acai bowl places, okay, there’s going to be a holiday people, you know, like a lot. [00:29:52] Katrina: If you can’t get a good flat white, then forget about it. Right. Like, there’s not gonna be so many people. I never, I, I [00:29:59] Ale: never [00:30:00] traveled to like the Asai places so much. . [00:30:03] Katrina: Exactly. [00:30:03] Ale: Like never, like you’re a tourist person. But I was, I was always chasing like the waves, you know, like, so when I moved to Portugal, it was always like, okay, find my house, like the closest to a surfing beach that I can uhhuh [00:30:20] Ale: Okay. Boom. And like. Mexico is the same. Indonesia is the same. Australia. [00:30:28] Brad: Long borders, short borders, girls, guys, like kids, old people. Is it different in all these places? [00:30:35] Katrina: Yeah. Surf dogs. [00:30:37] Brad: Surf dogs? [00:30:38] Ale: Yeah, definitely different. They’re all surf [00:30:41] Brad: dogs. [00:30:42] Ale: It depends. It’s a real thing though. Like, yeah. But I don’t know how to explain it. [00:30:48] Ale: There are similarities and there’s differences in all of them, but we’re [00:30:51] Brad: out of podcasts, just talk it out and we’ll figure it out. [00:30:55] Ale: For example, okay. Talking [00:31:00] about localism, like in Indonesia, like there was not that many locals because they don’t like most, like a lot of locals didn’t even serve like swim, so there were not that many surfers. [00:31:12] Ale: So like most like locals. Or people that believe they were locals, like they’re, they were not from there, you know, in most surf spots, at least back then. I bet now it’s changed because there’s a lot of surfing culture and there’s a good old [00:31:29] Katrina: story. Did Columbus or show Lombus discover America? Yeah. [00:31:35] Ale: At least obviously Bali. [00:31:40] Ale: Yeah, whatever. But. Like the other 17, 000 islands. Cause I also lived in a sail, I was living in a sailboat for a year. And so I saw a bunch of islands and most of them like, okay, so [00:31:57] Brad: let me ask you a question. Cause you’d mentioned Guate [00:32:00] before and how we were saying like, maybe it was like four or 50, 40 years ago that people started surfing there in those probably like almost similar in timeframe, like at least in the mental wise in places like this. [00:32:13] Ale: Uh, I think early, I think before, but it was tourists. Like, you know, like Jeff Hackman and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They started surfing the, uh, yeah. But they, there wasn’t even a road they had to like, I heard these stories too. And there’s a movie. I wish I remember, but I’m not going to remember. But also, uh, G land [00:32:40] Brad: chasing the Lotus. [00:32:41] Brad: That’s the name of the movie. It’s got Jerry Lopez and Rory Russell going to G Land. I played that [00:32:48] Ale: in my restaurant with Jeff Hackman sitting there watching. That’s hilarious. [00:32:55] Brad: It’s a good movie. Spider and Wills. Um, yeah, [00:33:00] we got off track there. I don’t know what we’re talking about now. [00:33:02] Katrina: About the surf scene, you wanted us to be very specific. [00:33:05] Katrina: How are the spots [00:33:08] Ale: different? [00:33:09] Brad: Yeah, so if like places have Like picked up surfing at the same time, but they still evolve differently. [00:33:16] Ale: Yeah. Yeah. Because for example, okay. For me, like, for example, what, what is like more beach break? It’s all sand and maybe a couple of river miles and point breaks that are manmade. [00:33:31] Ale: And then Indonesia is like reef perfect left some rights in the off season or the other seat, the other monsoon season or whatever. It looks like [00:33:42] Katrina: a Guatemala surf, surfboard. But like, honestly, I don’t care about the, [00:33:47] Ale: what’s going on in land, just like the waves. At least when I travel. I [00:33:58] Brad: [00:34:00] think we lost the thread there. [00:34:03] Brad: But [00:34:04] Ale: now you’re saying the differences, like that’s very different from one sport to the other, no? [00:34:10] Brad: I suppose so. [00:34:11] Ale: Like the, how the wave is. [00:34:14] Brad: Oh yeah. Yeah. But then how does that change? Like the culture that, that like, do you like, like how many, like how many long borders are in Guate? [00:34:25] Katrina: Uh, it’s an exact number or should we ask JGP? [00:34:29] Katrina: I don’t know. Like, [00:34:31] Brad: I mean, because, because in my estimation, Guate [00:34:35] Ale: or Guatemalans that also live somewhere else? [00:34:38] Brad: Oh, it’s more just like. You gotta think that if it’s all a bunch of beach break, there’s probably not that many loggers. It just doesn’t suit it that well. And so there’d be less of it, you would think. [00:34:48] Brad: And there’d probably be like more boogie boarders. Nete is raising her hand. [00:34:51] Nette: Actually, boogie boarders and Mattel are really good. Yes, [00:34:55] Brad: Nete. In [00:34:56] Nette: Holland, there’s only beach breaks. And I think there’s a lot [00:35:00] more long boarders than short boarders. [00:35:01] Brad: But the waves are also like, Completely powerless. [00:35:05] Nette: Very true. [00:35:05] Brad: Very like windswelly. So it kind of makes sense that there’d be like that there. [00:35:09] Nette: It’d [00:35:09] Brad: be funny to me if there was like a hardcore like shortboard scene there. They’re like, Oh yeah, these are like all air guys. And they’re just like, There’s [00:35:16] Nette: some, like, especially in that one town. Oh yeah? Eh [00:35:19] Brad: eh eh eh eh eh [00:35:21] Ale: eh eh eh eh! [00:35:23] Ale: What the! [00:35:23] Brad: That’s okay I don’t think anybody is going to let a kid on a plane to go there. I don’t know if anyone can understand the word she just said. I don’t think you want to go there. [00:35:30] Ale: To [00:35:30] Brad: be [00:35:31] Nette: honest It’s actually really nice. But um, yeah there, there’s like, even like a Junior team and they all like, try and do [00:35:38] Brad: Airs and stuff? [00:35:39] Nette: I mean, try [00:35:40] Brad: Okay so, so we got [00:35:41] Nette: Some are like good surfers [00:35:43] Brad: I mean, I imagine that they are, but this is what’s funny to me. It’s like the place has just got not good waves for like probably 99 percent of the time. And there’s still guys that are, that, that surfing to them means like doing airs. Yeah. And it’s like, they can’t surf probably [00:36:00] like any of the time. [00:36:01] Brad: And if they had a longboard, they’d probably surf like all the time. [00:36:04] Nette: But they can even like surf on tiny waves and you just see them like, and [00:36:12] Brad: for our audio listeners, net day was just doing all kinds of gyrations to show what it takes to surf a four inch wave. [00:36:22] Ale: So, the difference outside of the water. [00:36:25] Brad: The difference outside the water? In all the scenes? Okay, give me examples. [00:36:30] Ale: Uh, okay. So, yeah, like I told you. Guate didn’t have like, tourism or like, Now there is a town that has like, board rentals and hotels and stuff. [00:36:40] Brad: There was probably like at least a little crew, and would you guys get together? [00:36:45] Ale: Yeah, I guess like at the hut outside of the wave. [00:36:49] Brad: Okay, what is the hut like? [00:36:51] Ale: Describe the hut. And like, drink a coconut. It was just like this lady that had a bunch of chickens. You couldn’t bring your dog cause it would go back covered in like [00:37:00] [00:37:01] Brad: Feathers and blood? [00:37:02] Ale: Covered in like, uh, ticks and Oh lord. And like fleas and stuff. [00:37:09] Ale: It was like horrible. You had to cross like a mangrove stuff with a, with a speed, like with a, not a speed boat, but like a panga. [00:37:22] Brad: Okay. So this is like your surf scene. There’s like four of you hanging out in a flea infested hut. That sounds pretty cool. Pretty sick. [00:37:31] Ale: That’s [00:37:32] Brad: like, that’s very cool. Yeah. [00:37:34] Ale: And like when there was like big storms, Yeah. [00:37:38] Ale: We used like [00:37:40] Brad: parties out there. Oh, who’s at the door? Fox. [00:37:42] Ale: We had what [00:37:43] Brad: you guys have parties and stuff [00:37:46] Ale: later on when the other town that now has like rentals and stuff. [00:37:52] Brad: Yes. And then there’s like parties. I came together and had like, well, you’re part. Yeah. [00:37:57] Ale: Like, like Papa Geo face down on the [00:38:00] grass. [00:38:03] Ale: Like, yeah, [00:38:05] Brad: Okay. And was like the, the music, like surf music, like from like the surf movies that were coming out for a lot of reggae [00:38:15] Ale: love. Like what? Like Spanish speaking reggae. [00:38:18] Brad: We [00:38:22] Ale: actually went to the concert [00:38:25] Brad: and that was like, okay. And then we’re like, Was there a big like influence from the States or is it like just your own twist on it? [00:38:35] Ale: Own twist. [00:38:36] Brad: Would you guys get like the magazines? We had our own, we [00:38:40] Ale: had our own magazine. [00:38:42] Brad: Alright, so when did that start happening? You had a scene if you guys had a magazine. [00:38:47] Ale: Oh my god, I wish I had it here. Because it, I can’t remember how old it is, I think it’s like [00:38:53] Brad: 20 years now. So you guys have had a surf mag for 20 Is there a surf mag in Latvia? [00:38:58] Katrina: Um, uh, good [00:39:00] question. Um, I have no clue, probably not. We need to [00:39:01] Brad: find this out. All you, like, internet people with Google and the, um, the capabilities, go ahead and look that up for us. [00:39:09] Katrina: Yeah, I, I, I don’t think so. No, I don’t think so. [00:39:12] Brad: That’d be sick. [00:39:14] Katrina: Um, I don’t think we’re that mature yet. But there’s probably some kid, [00:39:16] Brad: like, Pasting together stuff in some bedroom somewhere being like, yeah, I’m going to like go photocopy this and like hand out zines. [00:39:24] Brad: That’s what I’ve really found. Like everywhere. Like you think it’s not happening and it is. [00:39:30] Ale: Yeah. Their magazine, like, yeah, it’s still the only one and it’s good. It’s called surf art magazine. [00:39:39] Brad: Holland. They got magazines like surf, like their own surf mag. [00:39:43] Nette: Probably, but I don’t really know. [00:39:45] Brad: Well, what about like on the internet? [00:39:46] Brad: They have like their own surf websites and [00:39:48] Nette: like [00:39:49] Brad: all that. [00:39:50] Nette: They have also it on forecast. [00:39:54] Brad: Ah, it’s only for that region. Like [00:39:57] Nette: surf weather dot NL. [00:40:00] [00:40:00] Brad: Oh yeah. And is it by like some surf nerd that just like, I [00:40:02] Nette: think it’s just a weather nerd, but maybe he’s a surf nerd too. I don’t know. [00:40:07] Brad: I really, but [00:40:07] Nette: it kind of sucks because he will be very specific. [00:40:11] Nette: It’s going to be good at that time, on this beach, like he writes it out. So then everybody is there and shows up. [00:40:21] Brad: As a guy that did the surf report and the forecast for many, many years, daily, and sometimes more, um, there is like a weird responsibility that you’re like, I feel like I shouldn’t give away too much, but I need to give away at least a little bit. [00:40:37] Brad: Or you [00:40:38] Nette: just say the wrong information and send everyone to the wrong spot. [00:40:42] Ale: When the cameras are off, you know this is cute. Yeah. That happens here a lot. [00:40:48] Brad: Uh, yeah, the camera goes off. Well, yeah, during storms a lot because of the electricity. I think somebody just said that. And then, Why? Well, there’s, yeah, then, well, storms happen and [00:41:00] then the electricity [00:41:00] Ale: goes out. [00:41:01] Ale: And [00:41:01] Brad: then when there’s a storm coming by, a lot of time there’s like glassy conditions after the storm. Mhm. And the camera is still out, but no one knows that it’s good because you can’t see the cam. And then there’s also sabotage of surf cameras. This has been going on for a long time. [00:41:19] Katrina: Oh my God. So much to like, just chill, go surf. [00:41:24] Katrina: Okay. And when I was in Indonesia, [00:41:28] Brad: how many places you surfed in? You have, you schedule your whole life around surfing. Honestly, [00:41:33] Katrina: like if I would count the countries that I’ve surfed in, it’s probably around 30 different countries. I think so. I think so. I don’t know. I mean, probably not 30 May. Well, it’s a lot. [00:41:45] Katrina: Like. [00:41:46] Brad: I’ve never really counted mine, but I’m sure I’ve got a bunch. [00:41:49] Katrina: It’s because, you know, I had to like hustle every time. So then how come so many, [00:41:54] Brad: how come you didn’t like stick around in one? [00:41:56] Katrina: It’s because when, after that, like a year of [00:42:00] kind of going around and surfing, I had to go back to Kuwait to work. [00:42:04] Katrina: And I just begged my boss to like, please, please let me like work remote. That sometimes, and I would just go to. Any other place like a new place because I also want to discover culture. I want to discover new places, new adventures. So as insanely passionate I am about surfing, especially cause I started when I was 26, you know, so I started quite late. [00:42:29] Katrina: I mean, I wanted to also make it as an experience and adventure and not just about chasing the best wave, you know, because I also think that you learn something about ocean. You, I always say like, there’s like four or five different oceans, but you learn about the sea and an ocean in every new place. So for me, it’s like so beautiful because like water is just like, yeah. [00:42:55] Katrina: So I never sticked around like to one place. Okay, so I’m [00:42:59] Brad: guessing that [00:43:00] you didn’t even go much inland from the places that you visit [00:43:03] Katrina: No, I do as well like because I have other hobbies as well So, okay, I would go like kite surfing in the lakes or go hike the mountains in between So, no, I, I’ll, I’ll make time. [00:43:15] Katrina: I am pretty [00:43:15] Brad: guilty of staying on the coastlines. Me too. [00:43:19] Katrina: It’s [00:43:20] Brad: horrible, but I’m like, at least I’m in a different place. I’m trying to learn something. No, but don’t get me wrong. I won’t [00:43:24] Katrina: go inland unless it’s like an action. You know, I need an adrenaline action. [00:43:29] Brad: Oh no, I’ll go inland if you’re like, Eh, there’s a cool lake, let’s go sit on the dock and drink beer. [00:43:33] Ale: Or just change scenery for some time. Or if you get sinus infection. [00:43:38] Brad: Yeah, I guess. The [00:43:39] Ale: only time [00:43:40] Brad: I leave the coast is like, I’m sick, I must go inland to seek care. [00:43:48] Brad: Okay, last question. Um, where do you think surfing is going? [00:43:54] Katrina: Wave pool. [00:43:56] Brad: Okay, I mean that’s a, that’s one answer, right? [00:43:58] Katrina: I don’t know. [00:43:59] Brad: I mean to [00:44:00] me it’s like, it’s very different that you guys have grown up surfing and learned surfing and continue to like go surfing outside of like where your home is. Um, I’m doing that too to a certain extent, but like a lot of my surfing happened like where I grew up and it still does happen like that. [00:44:18] Ale: Yeah, mine not so much though. [00:44:20] Brad: It just, do you think the future of surfing is like less around where your home is or your home was? [00:44:25] Ale: Maybe that’s not just the future of surfing, but the future. Well, I don’t know. People like traveling, no? [00:44:34] Brad: I guess. [00:44:36] Ale: I think [00:44:37] Nette: I’m a little scared for the future of surfing. What is scary? [00:44:42] Brad: Tell us, tell us in a whisper. [00:44:44] Nette: I think it’s going to explode. It’s already more [00:44:47] Brad: than it’s exploding. [00:44:48] Nette: Yeah. And like you already, I don’t know, like here in the water, I feel a huge difference in how it was like five years ago and now like [00:45:00] the tension between people and how mean everybody is to each other and how they’re not greeting each other about the negativity of surfing now, but that’s [00:45:11] Ale: also, I feel like there’s more humans in the world, but also. [00:45:14] Ale: Here in El Salvador, like the government has been pushing surfing tourism, like nowhere else in the world, especially for a tiny little country. So like [00:45:28] Brad: it’s, it’s a, it is a huge difference [00:45:29] Ale: here. So like here it feels more than everywhere else. And if we’re here a lot, like we get like, [00:45:36] Brad: Let me, I [00:45:37] Nette: was just in Mexico and I thought everyone was a dick. [00:45:41] Brad: Okay. So let me, this is a controversial question. Um, [00:45:50] Brad: years ago it wasn’t really popular just as you said to like have surf schools and surf coaches or anything like this. Like [00:46:00] you said that in the places you guys grew up that they didn’t even exist. Now they do exist. Is this the problem? [00:46:09] Katrina: It’s not like a problem. Who knows what is the problem? There is like, you know, [00:46:13] Nette: surfing is so fun. [00:46:14] Nette: That’s the problem. [00:46:15] Brad: So my premise, my premise was like when I saw all like the people starting during COVID all the outdoor activities exploded during COVID because people like when fishing and golfing and skiing and like hiking and mountain biking anything you can do outside. Um, there’s a huge resurgence and that’s great, you know, um, but it does create like more people and resources that maybe are a little bit scarce. [00:46:37] Brad: And I was like, serving’s hard, you know, like [00:46:40] Nette: people [00:46:42] Brad: are going to like give up on this shit probably pretty quickly. You know, like people give up on golf. People give up on skiing people because like, eh, it’s kind of like a pain in the ass, kind of hard. And like, it was a good idea. I liked it, kinda, but then I didn’t really get good at it and it was, eh, like, forget [00:47:00] it. [00:47:01] Brad: I thought that was going to happen and it, I don’t know if it, like, there’s just more people coming into surfing. So like, there’s just like a risk, like people drop out and then more people come in, people drop out and more people come in. But [00:47:16] Nette: I think it’s also the most addictive sport I’ve ever tried because you get this little feeling of, wow. [00:47:23] Nette: And then you always try and chase that. So no matter if it’s just in the whitewater and you stand up, you’re like, Whoa, and you want to do that again. And then a little better. I didn’t really have that, that much in other sports. [00:47:38] Ale: Yeah. For me, I’ve been surfing for like a long time. And like, I feel like I’ve never been a, uh, Bigger frother than right now. [00:47:52] Brad: So that’s where the future of Serbian is going. Ale is becoming a bigger frother. But like, I [00:47:57] Ale: feel like this happens to a lot of people though. [00:47:59] Brad: Froth [00:48:00] forecast up. [00:48:03] Ale: Like, I don’t know. I feel like, maybe not to everybody, but like, I feel like you can like build up on the froth. [00:48:11] Brad: I. Yeah, I mean, thank you surfing is clearly about being pretty freaking filthy. [00:48:16] Brad: Isn’t it [00:48:16] Katrina: like, like, it’s, it’s like super individual, right? But it’s just that, you know, it’s uh, obviously there’s more people surfing because it’s more accessible. There’s more people kiting because it’s more accessible. And the places are more accessible. Uh, we are doing more things because it’s more accessible. [00:48:33] Katrina: Kids have phones because it’s more accessible. It’s just more accessible, but, I think it does take a great deal of passion and determination with any single sports you do to stay consistent, to stay, to keep being out there like there’s no one that you asked me today. How do you surf like that in four years? [00:48:52] Katrina: Not being not surfing all the time is because you know, like if you want something, you just go. [00:49:00] Right. But then the question is like, there’s always going to be now more people in the water, but like, there are so many places around the world that I go to and I beg for somebody to come out. Cause I’m shitting my pants, you know, cause it’s like, it’s like scary and there’s nobody, um, so I think it’s just, you know, like, Like building your own surfing path and like if something gets crowded and starts to frustrate you, you know, it’s your choice to either stay in that country or find a new spot. [00:49:34] Katrina: Right. I mean, at least in our lifetime, I think we can still surf empty spots, but like, I don’t know if that’s [00:49:42] Brad: even what you want to do. Yeah, I know a lot of people just like love paddling out in a pack and just yelling at people. [00:49:47] Katrina: Yeah, it’s [00:49:47] Brad: just like, and that’s how they get their aggression or some people just go out there and talk. [00:49:51] Ale: And also some people are super good vibes. Like even in like the gnarliest, like surf spot, like [00:50:00] where everybody’s super angry and super negative. You always have like a couple of nice guys that are like super good vibes and like they can change the vibe of the place or their own perception of it. [00:50:12] Brad: Yeah, I guess so. [00:50:13] Brad: So it’s like, uh, The population will increase, but the, like the, the, the ratio of people just expands. Like there’s still going to be people that are going and people that are, [00:50:24] Ale: at least the surfing population, maybe it’s growing faster than the world’s population. [00:50:30] Brad: Yeah. [00:50:31] Ale: Even though they’re both growing. [00:50:33] Brad: So I guess we all agree that there’s probably going to be more people serving. [00:50:38] Nette: But there’s also more wave pools coming. [00:50:41] Brad: Yeah. I kind of, [00:50:42] Nette: you [00:50:44] Brad: know, and that’s it. I think, you know, I think very similarly on this. I was like, yeah, you know, surfing’s hard if you just put them all in pools, that’ll just leave the ocean for the people who’d want to deal with like getting worked and taking sets on the head. [00:50:56] Nette: Yeah. [00:50:56] Brad: Cause that part’s like fun too. [00:50:59] Nette: But they say, and [00:51:00] they can leave in [00:51:00] Ale: cities and do their [00:51:01] Brad: stuff. In [00:51:03] Nette: the way for you crash hard on the bottom. [00:51:06] Brad: No, that day, it’s fine. They love the wave pool. It’s safe. Cause it’s not salty. So you don’t know, no, no, everyone loves it. Everyone who’s new to surfing. You should go to a wave pool. [00:51:18] Brad: And, uh, save the ocean for, uh, the four people sitting on this couch. I think we just did a podcast episode. You guys [00:51:25] Ale: know, [00:51:25] Brad: is it over? You want to keep going? What do you want to say? [00:51:28] Ale: Girl, we haven’t said anything. [00:51:34] Brad: I think we’ve like, how long has this been going? [00:51:36] Katrina: It’s been for a while. [00:51:38] Brad: I can’t read this. I think it’s like, yeah, we did an hour. [00:51:41] Ale: Okay. [00:51:41] Brad: Uh, maybe like 45 minutes. [00:51:43] Ale: Okay. [00:51:44] Brad: Okay. Then, um, We got to do this thing when we end it. Um, oh yeah, I guess I can ask you one sentence. What does surfing mean to you?[00:52:00] [00:52:00] Ale: Sentence? That’s hard. [00:52:05] Brad: Yeah, I know. Just say it. First thing that comes to mind. [00:52:07] Ale: I only have one word. [00:52:08] Brad: Okay, go for it. [00:52:09] Ale: Synergy. [00:52:10] Brad: Okay. [00:52:11] Ale: Freedom? I don’t know. [00:52:14] Katrina: Fraught. [00:52:16] Brad: Stoked. That’s the episode. Stoked. Yeah. All right. Um, this was a podcast episode. Thank you. Surfing. I’m Brad Wells. I’m so happy to be joined by my friends. [00:52:29] Ale: Allie, Allie Oceans, Katrina Cruz. 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