Brad and Chris sit down for the second serving of the ThankYouSurfing podcast. After polishing their routine with episode one, the guys are ready to chat and get this podcast going! This episode features the challenges of being a pro surf photographer, the demise of print surf media, upcoming events at Division Wynwood, the Surf Expo in Orlando, and a new initiative with the Surfrider Foundation.
This episode includes:
- Local Lens
- Surf Photographers
- Division Wynwood
- Surf Expo
- Water Quality Testing with Surfrider Foundation Miami
- Who is the Surf Community?
- Green-ing the Surf Industry
Transcript
[00:00:00] Brad: Hey. We’re back. We are back. We’re doing this again. I think we’re too close to it again. We’re too, uh, [00:00:11] Chris: within beer reach. [00:00:12] Brad: Yes, still within reach. Welcome, welcome. Uh, excited to be here again. What up, [00:00:17] Chris: Captain Etsky? [00:00:19] Brad: We are here at First Shop doing the second unofficial cast, podcast, broadcast of, uh, this. Yes. [00:00:30] Brad: Just talking story. Cheers to you there at home. Welcome. We’re very excited. You guys are here again. Uh, we had a lot of fun last week. We’re actually thinking about posting last week’s a little episode up on the blog. So you guys can check that out. Um, also on the website now we’ve got some new local lens features. [00:00:50] Brad: We just did Dave Hernandez, uh, surf 305 thing is sick. Some really, really ridiculous South beach stuff. Yeah. And then, uh, also Jason from up in New Smyrna, putting some really, really sick stuff out. And, uh, we posted that to the blog. So, check out thredomsurfing. com and you could, uh, see all these photo features. [00:01:14] Chris: Kind of excited. So, are we doing someone different every week? That’s kind of the, the whole thing with the local lens, different feature. [00:01:22] Brad: Yeah, it’s really just check your local photographer and they submit some photos. There’s really no instructions on what sort of photos to give. They’re just whatever they want us to show the world. [00:01:35] Brad: And then we just go out and put it with an interview, just some kind of background information on what these guys and gals are doing in life other than shooting photos, what they can do, uh, what they can get help from, from us as surfers. Um, most of them just really want to get like. Uh, Texted. Right. When there’s waves. [00:01:53] Brad: Right. Apparently surf, uh, surf forecasting is not a skill that surf photographers have. Weird. It’s kind of funny. Um. Too much to concentrate on just I guess, yeah. A lot of gear. Yeah. Don’t give me any more mental gear, bro. A lot of gear, a lot of editing. And so, I think those guys just kind of want to show up when the waves are big. [00:02:12] Brad: Just tell me where I have to point and shoot. Yeah, yeah. And they’re generally, like, good surfers. [00:02:17] Chris: Right, which, uh, gotta say around here, it’s kind of been pretty epic, even with the last swell that we had, that we have so many people that are actually have lenses on the beach. We have like, the last time we had a little surf last week, we had like three drones and like easily like six or seven people with cameras on the beach, which for the longest time in forever, I’ve never been that case. [00:02:37] Chris: So it’s kind of exciting that we have more eyes watching you. So if you’re out there, if you’re surfing. You never know. Yeah. I mean, and how do you think that somebody maybe got their picture taken and stuff like that? I mean, is there a way to reach out to these photographers? Do we have for sure? We have a way maybe. [00:02:52] Chris: Thank you. Surfing could be a place so they can reach out and say, Hey, [00:02:55] Brad: great question. I wasn’t a lead in, but it actually is a lead in. I did put up a list of every surf photographer that I could find. Uh, all their Instagram handles are on, uh, the website, so you can go there and click and find all the guys that are from Florida. [00:03:09] Brad: Sure. And, uh. And if [00:03:11] Chris: you’re maybe a budding photographer, can, can they reach out [00:03:14] Brad: to you? Oh yeah, for sure. Send me an email. Thankyouservingatgmail. com. Happy to give you guys pointers. I get to even hook you guys up with other photographers that are, you know, been around the block a little bit, give me some pointers. [00:03:25] Brad: Um, actually all the local lens interviews have some of this stuff in there. You know, what those guys are all shooting with. Where they learn to shoot, um, stuff like that. It’s pretty interesting. [00:03:35] Chris: Well, it’s pretty cool because I know it’s kind of hard sometimes to ask questions. You feel weird about it and, uh, at least having it easily in front of you. [00:03:43] Chris: And I’m sure you could probably research a lot of this stuff online as well [00:03:46] Brad: anyways. [00:03:46] Chris: Yeah, totally. But, what’s great about putting it somewhere like that is that you have, uh, someone that’s just right next to you. Literally, like it’s around the corner. It’s doing the same thing you’re doing community wise. [00:03:56] Chris: And you’re kind of getting some information from them. [00:03:58] Brad: That’s actually another interesting thing that I noticed, uh, within like the surf community here, photographers are not competitive. Right. Like, if they see another lens on the beach, they’ll like stand next to each other and talk and figure out what they’re shooting, what they’re up to. [00:04:14] Brad: That’s funny that, that’s funny you should [00:04:15] Chris: point out. I don’t, uh, you’re right. And maybe because there isn’t probably any sort of, uh, monetary, uh, action or, you know, kind of, uh, transactions happening in it. Whereas those guys are like, yo, I’m eating off of this. Sadly, [00:04:29] Brad: there is not many professional surfer photographers. [00:04:31] Chris: Right. But you, I mean, we’ve seen the periodicals kind of go the wayside, right? You have ESM, RIP, you know, surfer mag, are we RIP surfer mag? Was it surfing? Was it surfing? Sorry, surfer. Sorry. I mean, maybe But I guess they still sell their shots to online periodicals, right? I mean, at this point, there’s peanuts probably that you make on it. [00:04:57] Brad: We’re gonna have to get a photographer to come in here and talk about this with us or something. Because they have told me some really, really messed up stories. I mean You do the math. I mean, what’s the cover of a certain magazine gonna get you? Like a thousand bucks two thousand bucks, maybe ten thousand bucks I don’t even think that’s the case anymore [00:05:18] Chris: for like for like what the major [00:05:19] Brad: periodicals [00:05:20] Chris: like you’re what [00:05:21] Brad: and so that’s twelve in the year How many photographers are there? [00:05:26] Brad: So how much money is possibly in that little pool? So is [00:05:31] Chris: paparazzi like Nighttime job you have to get, maybe. [00:05:35] Brad: Well, it’s actually kind of interesting. A lot of the guys and girls that shoot, um, surf photography, shoot photography elsewhere, um, or they have another job. Right. You [00:05:46] Chris: have to. Um, fun fact I just learned just a couple of days ago. [00:05:55] Chris: Gentlemen, listen up, Rudy, I’m looking at you buddy. Cause I need you on in on this. Anastasia Ashley lives in South Beach now. You might see her on the lineup, might see her out in the clubs. Anastasia if you’re watching because I know you are. Come on over, let’s talk. [00:06:14] Brad: You know after we talked about this the other day, I thought I may have seen her on Lincoln Road. [00:06:18] Brad: Shut up. Yeah. I mean there’s a lot of pretty girls on Lincoln Road. There’s a few. Could have been a different pretty girl. I mean, every [00:06:26] Chris: day. I mean, this place is crazy. [00:06:28] Brad: That is a little funny fact there. Where’d you get that guy? You know, [00:06:33] Chris: things are here. Close to the ground, you hear things, you pick them up and you’re like, you know what, we’re doing this. [00:06:37] Chris: So tuned in. [00:06:39] Brad: So, um, I hear you got some [00:06:42] Chris: stuff going on with Division? Yes, Division. At Division Wynwood. It’s uh, we’re gonna reopen it. We launched this weekend. Uh, we, we, we kind of opened up the day before Thanksgiving to kind of bring in that basil crowd. We stayed open for about a month. We teamed up with Ami James and the rest of the crew of Love Hate, as well as your Chris Garver, Chris Nunez, and Tommy Montoya out of California, uh, Darren Brass, and they pretty much brought the whole crew from Miami, uh, that originally started, and they put them under one roof. [00:07:11] Chris: They teamed up with us to bring a surf and skate concept out to Wynwood, and, uh, we had it open for about a month because they’re filming a TV show out of it. It comes out in March. Uh, we’ll definitely give you more info on that. Please follow us, The Vision Wynwood. And, uh, yeah, we’re gonna go ahead and just open the doors tomorrow. [00:07:26] Chris: Start doing some tattoos. Uh, probably have some burgers and some beers. Ooh, burgers and beers? Burgers and beers, always get them. Um, so, definitely either follow us or come by. Did you [00:07:36] Brad: lay out all the merchandise again? I did. Did you sweep the floors like 800 times to make sure everything is completely spotless? [00:07:42] Brad: You know, I was going, I, [00:07:43] Chris: yeah, I, yeah. I, I can’t even run away from it. I can’t. I can’t. I’m sorry, babe. I’m sorry, but yeah, that’s what’s going on with the vision. We’re kind of amped on it. I’m pretty stoked. Um, as far as other things that are going on, surf Expo, surf Expo [00:08:00] Brad: coming up this week, [00:08:03] Chris: right? Next Thursday. [00:08:04] Chris: Right. [00:08:05] Brad: What are we in? [00:08:06] Chris: Today’s Friday. Yeah. Yeah. In a week. [00:08:08] Brad: Right. Yeah. [00:08:10] Chris: Sweet. We’re going, we’re going, we’re going to expo. We’re taking the show on the road. We’re going to be there and do some work. I’ll do some more. Just high five. [00:08:18] Brad: I have not been to Surf Expo since, like, 2002. It’s changed. I A lot. The last time I was there, I’m pretty sure the lost team was just like, running ramp like, pouring beers on, like, on the reef girls. [00:08:33] Brad: Like, not like, running full speed into booths, knocking stuff down. Does that still happen? No, [00:08:39] Chris: sadly, not as much anymore. Oh. Uh, Riola, hey, listen. Should I not wear my shitkicker Doc Martens anymore? Riola, look, they’re looking, they’re, look, the people want it. The people want the 93 or 92 again. They want the, the craziness, the madness. [00:08:54] Chris: Um, I mean, maybe there’s a room for it still. But no, it’s, it’s toned down a lot. Um, actually, back when you were at last one, Uh, they definitely didn’t have a kiteboarding section. Right, they have a kite, I know. Don’t get me started. They also have a paddle board section and a wakeboard section that’s much larger than probably what they had back then. [00:09:11] Chris: They probably, that was probably the extent that they went to was a wakeboard [00:09:15] Brad: Surf Expo. [00:09:16] Chris: It, well, it’s an everything expo because attached to that you also have the resort section. Ooh. Oh, you have a private label section. I love resort labels. I know. It’s so good. It’s so nice. Um, but yeah, we’re going on the road. [00:09:26] Chris: We’re going to do some work. We’re going to kind of check out transits. What Surf Expo I think is great about now is that you can kind of keep your finger on the pulse. See who’s there, who’s not, figure it out. Cause it’s, it’s weird times right now in retail and especially the surf world. So we’re, we’re all still kind of figuring it out, you know, but we’re hoping to do the show in Orlando on the road when we do it at the expo, I don’t know. [00:09:51] Chris: They close at six. They kind of kick everyone out. [00:09:54] Brad: We can do it, I don’t know, we’ll figure it out. [00:09:56] Chris: We can do it on the run while they’re chasing us. [00:09:58] Brad: I’m sure we’ll be doing stuff along the way and then we’ll do maybe another 30 minute or maybe hour show. Maybe like a 7 hour telethon. Should we take them to dinner with [00:10:06] Chris: us? [00:10:06] Chris: We’ll just eat dinner and sushi and we’ll just, Hey, come on in, you want another drink? How about you? Glass over there? Who wants some? [00:10:13] Brad: Just gonna GoPro up your head and follow you around for the weekend? I don’t think the people really want that. No, [00:10:20] Chris: no. Rudy, how are you? Your wetsuit, I promise. I promise. I promise. [00:10:26] Chris: I’m trying. I’m just a guy. I’m just a guy. Strictly C. Afterparty. Pizza. Oh, nope, that’s not pizza. It looks like pizza. Pizza. What else we got next? What do we got going on? What do you have going on? How was [00:10:42] Brad: your week? My week? Busy week. Uh, we had some Welcome to Jeff. [00:10:49] Chris: Sorry we turned the light off in that room, but, you know, it’s our trip over. [00:10:54] Chris: We’re still open. We’re functional. Why not? Multitasking. [00:10:58] Brad: So, what was I doing this week? Oh, I was watching for waves a lot this week. So, I got an inter this is an interesting one for us. So, this week we had waves, ground swell, if you want to call it that. Like, swell lines were coming in all week. This week. [00:11:16] Brad: All this week. This week. Yeah. And depending on what tide and what little pulse you got, we either got it pretty much flat or like maybe even up the chest high. Right. Kind of a weird one. And um, even stranger, there was no sign of this on any like the buoy forecast that I look at. Because there was a predominant like east north east swell that was breaking all up coast that we don’t see down here. [00:11:45] Brad: So, So, all the soil that we saw down here was basically mass in a lot of the early forecasts with a larger swell. And so, this is like where you use like the old wives tale of like, oh, if I watch that and it’s 15, for 15 hours, less than 15 degrees, we got a shot at it. And so I was looking at that, and I was like, That’s not proven science? [00:12:08] Brad: Oh, I mean, it’s getting close to it. I mean, we have two old wives tales that I think work here at Best in Wyoming and I’m kind of giving away all the secrets here. Uh, one is the coldest days of the year are the best days of the year. [00:12:21] Chris: Okay. I like, [00:12:22] Brad: I like this wives tale. I’m going to do an actually a scientific analysis of that to see how correlated they are because I’m pretty sure that it’s going to come out almost spot on. [00:12:31] Chris: How about that old wives tale that if it’s raining, there must be wind. [00:12:34] Brad: Because [00:12:35] Chris: I get that from some Cuban old ladies all the time. Oh, Amita, it’s raining. How are the waves? You’re like, hmm, cool. They’re good. They’re good. And that’s all I got for them. But so that one doesn’t. [00:12:47] Brad: As far as I’m, I mean, even like the rain glass off thing. [00:12:51] Brad: I haven’t really felt that. Really? [00:12:54] Chris: I always thought like the rain and the clouds, you know? [00:12:56] Brad: No biggie? No, [00:12:56] Chris: maybe. [00:12:57] Brad: I like to believe it’s true. [00:12:59] Chris: And when it rains, I say it’s going to happen. So what you’re saying is surfing here, there’s a lot of room for dreaming. [00:13:08] Brad: I think my time is basically spent like 99 percent dreaming about waves and like 1 percent actually going surfing. And then there’s probably like of that 1%, there’s probably like 0. 01 percent of the time. [00:13:23] Chris: Somebody save us. Bring a wave pool. Hint, new people. Kelly, I know you’re watching. [00:13:29] Brad: Yeah, Kelly does watch us all the time. [00:13:31] Brad: Um, so maybe he’ll do it for us behind my house. Like we talked about last time. I think, I think we’ve got a recurring thing here. Wave pool. Wave pool. We’re just like, Oh, it’s flat. Wave pool. You know, why not? There’s no waves. Uh, and the other wives tale that, uh, come back to at the point we’re on is, um, If the wind blows over 15 knots. [00:13:55] Brad: Uh, [00:13:57] Chris: from this direction at this degree for this amount of time. [00:14:00] Brad: Yep. [00:14:00] Chris: That doesn’t really, that one, that one [00:14:03] Brad: is kind of close to reality. Um, [00:14:06] Chris: and this is in relation to our bounce swell, refraction swell, [00:14:09] Brad: whatever you want to call it. Science cannot explain this yet, but, um, I personally am working on it. Okay. [00:14:18] Brad: I’ve got some scientists that are interested in the question as well. How does this occur? A few curious people. [00:14:25] Chris: Random question, when you’re getting all science like, what do you listen to? Is there like a certain music that you listen to? Is there a certain band you go to? Are you like, you know what, I need to be hype, I’m going to go ahead and listen to a little Mars Volta. [00:14:37] Chris: Or is it, you know what, I’m going to kind of kick it down a gear, crack open a beer, and I’m going to listen to a little Van Morrison. You know, I mean, do we go nature? Or are we going like, Mechanical, I mean, classic rock. [00:14:51] Brad: Is there a go to? No, you know, there really isn’t. I, I actually started thinking about that the other day because I was like, Oh, I changed music. [00:14:59] Brad: And then for half a second, I was like, well, what task am I going to accomplish and what music would be best towards it? And then I was like, really, what do I want to listen to? [00:15:07] Chris: You know, I kind of have that same thinking behind board shorts. I know, and surfing and casual moments. It really is. Like I’ve got 17 different port shorts and that’s me whittling down. [00:15:18] Chris: And it’s one of those things where you have shorter length ones, longer length ones, certain colors. And some are great for the pool. Some are good for the boat. Hey, you know what? I want to go longboard today. So I’m going to wear these shorts. I want, you know what? I’m feeling like a hot shredder. I’m going on a trip. [00:15:30] Chris: I need that one short that’s good for a bunch of days. [00:15:32] Brad: Alright, but is it based on the aesthetic or the functionality? Be honest. Ooh. Uh, Aesthetic. [00:15:40] Chris: Ah! Absolutely. All right. All right. Fashion over form. Or function. Sorry, fashion [00:15:45] Brad: over function. Yeah, we’ve had this conversation. I’m a [00:15:48] Chris: retail guy. What do you want [00:15:49] Brad: me to do? [00:15:50] Brad: Front zip, beaver tail, wet toots. I know. Make better ones [00:15:54] Chris: now. Yeah. Hey, listen, warmth? Who needs it? Hey, you can Did you see my bottom turn with my mock knees pulled together? Yeah. Retro as A. F. Retro A. F. [00:16:04] Brad: The photographers like it. Yeah, they do. That’s that’s one big benefit for that. I think it [00:16:09] Chris: was block out my face. [00:16:13] Chris: So weird. Oh, all right. Well, enjoy my beer. [00:16:22] Brad: Oh, interesting. Um, when I got here, the guys from Surfrider Foundation, um, we’re here. I didn’t know they’re going to be here. Surfrider Foundation, Miami at Surfrider Miami. If you guys want to follow them. You guys are doing something here. [00:16:39] Chris: Yep, we decided to team up with SurfRider. [00:16:41] Chris: Um, a lot of, you know, we’re surrounded by water, uh, down here and everybody likes to enjoy it. Uh, unfortunately, the city is continuing to grow as many do and there is, uh, unfortunately a lot of pollution that goes on into our waters. And, um, statewide they already do their tests at certain locations down here. [00:17:00] Chris: But SurfRider kind of wanted to Step it up a little bit, do additional tests along with them and be able to kind of provide as much information, start heading into our bays, other places that maybe they don’t do it. So they can really get a good understanding of what the water quality is like here on our beaches, both on the bay and in the water. [00:17:17] Chris: So we created a water quality testing station. So if you ever get down to first surf shop at first surf shop. com at first surf shop, follow us. But if you ever [00:17:27] Brad: Google it, you [00:17:27] Chris: can find it. It’s easy. Google it. Google us. If you ever make it down this way, you can come check out our little section that we’ve created to kind of do some water testing. [00:17:35] Chris: We’re excited about it. I think they’re pretty pumped about it too. They’ve dropped a good, a good coin and getting all the machines to kind of make that happen. So, um, Hey, here’s to our water staying clean. Thank you. Surfrider. [00:17:48] Brad: Yeah, it’s been a big thing for a long time. A lot of people have asked for it years and years ago. [00:17:53] Brad: Um, when they first started the initiative, Surfrider Foundation, they had tried to run it. It was hugely expensive and, um, really awesome that you guys are going to do it. And you guys have set up the investment to do it on the regular, which is also super important, not only from like a public health standpoint, but also, um, from a scientific standpoint to like build a database, like consistent reporting. [00:18:16] Chris: And we haven’t had it around here locally. And I also sat on the board. I [00:18:20] Brad: mean, the county does it, but no one has stepped up to add to that at all. [00:18:23] Chris: Right. And you know, I sit on the board of the city of Miami beach for the Waterfront and marine board and this is something that you know gets tossed in front of us all the time So I’m hoping that the city of Miami Beach Listening. [00:18:35] Chris: I know you’re watching too Hopefully they can get behind it and throw some support both monetary as well as everything else Because this is our waters. I mean we’re surrounded by Make our money off of it. We live in it. We’re surfing it. We’re cruising it. So It’s definitely one of our most You definitely shouldn’t. [00:18:54] Brad: Yeah, I mean The the wastewater facility there in Virginia [00:19:03] Chris: Key. It’s like right there and unfortunately that thing’s a leaky mess. [00:19:06] Brad: Like a lot of our infrastructure in Miami is. But we digress. We digress. [00:19:11] Chris: Without teamwork, you can’t make the drill. I think that [00:19:13] Brad: the point is that uh, It’s awesome that you guys are gonna start doing this with Sarah Potter Foundation. [00:19:18] Brad: It’s gonna be right here at the shop Checking out the new area. It actually set up a lab here, which will probably, um, you know, maybe do like a little run through with Certified Foundation at one point, but it’s super cool. And, um, we’re really, really, really lucky to have these guys from the shop, um, pitching in to do it, making the commitment. [00:19:40] Brad: And then also, you know, like from, um, from the public standpoint to have that information is really important, but then also to expose everybody to the fact that that goes on and that you can show them that it’s important. I don’t know, it just kind of tightens the whole circle on what it’s about. [00:19:55] Chris: You know, we feel that both it’s within us, our responsibility as just citizens and keepers of the water, people that enjoy it, that we’ve got to do whatever we can, you know, and collectively hopefully we can all do things together. [00:20:09] Chris: See that Island Water Sports checked in. What’s up Skipper? This is to you, cheers to you. No we can’t start all over but you know what’s great for you. Eventually these things are going to be recorded. It’s going to be on a podcast and you can subscribe. You can listen to me all you want. Whatever you want to. [00:20:21] Brad: Bye. What happened to [00:20:23] Chris: the [00:20:23] Brad: glasses last time? [00:20:25] Chris: Oh, you know what? I wanted the rest of the world to know who I was. Windows to my soul right here. [00:20:35] Chris: Scott, you can catch us on a podcast down the line, eventually, or you know what? We might even be able to do one with Scott from Island Water Sports, IWS Miami on Instagram if you’re looking to kind of follow somebody with some great surf reports, we can do one with him while we’re up there. Scott, you coming up? [00:20:51] Brad: Ah, yeah, I’m sure they’re going to be there, right? [00:20:53] Chris: Got a little surf rider event coming up in North Beach in a couple of weeks. [00:20:56] Brad: Oh yeah, I think um, they are going to be showing a movie about surfing in Cuba. It’s gonna be pretty interesting. That is pretty cool. Yeah, I’m excited for that one. That should draw quite the crowd in Miami. [00:21:10] Chris: Yes, there’s a few Cubans here. They like coffee. [00:21:13] Brad: Maybe [00:21:14] Chris: Abuelito will come test out a theory of rain and there’s waves. Maybe if it’s rain, like Abuelito, there’s waves. No, there’s waves. Candela. That is [00:21:24] Brad: so perfect. Yeah, do I say it like that? I think and I will. [00:21:31] Chris: Oh, Salty Walter, what’s up buddy? I thought you, aren’t you supposed to be at dinner? [00:21:34] Chris: Oh no, you’re not at dinner yet. Sorry. I [00:21:36] Brad: um, I sent you something the other day. Uh, new feature for the site, speaking about on water sports. Local Stoke. I want to do an interview of people that work slash own shops, or shops. [00:21:53] Chris: Cool. [00:21:54] Brad: So. Why do you own a surf shop? How long have you worked at a surf shop? [00:21:59] Brad: What’s your favorite thing about working at a surf shop? What’s your favorite place to go eat and drink? I [00:22:04] Chris: mean, could we not one up it past that? I’m not a one upper. Or am I, Scott? [00:22:09] Brad: He’s like, not to one up you, but I’m about to one up you. [00:22:16] Chris: I’m just saying, like, we’re just exploring the room. We’re just exploring, throwing things on the wall, see if they stick. [00:22:20] Chris: But what if, there’s so many that aren’t in surf shops, but are surfers, that, you know, one of the hardest things about living down here and surfing, uh, amongst, you know, more than anything else, is that the inconsistency and that you have to chase waves. And you end up having, or trying to get a job that allows you to chase a surf, whether it’s a food and beverage industry, you’re just working at night, or, you know, you just don’t have a job. [00:22:40] Chris: Uh, you know, you’re kind of just waiting for that surf to happen. Um, people get those certain jobs, whether it’s nightlife or a bartender or this and that. And there’s that stoke that goes in them as well. That’s like, dude, what hoops do you have to jump through in order to make surf happen for your life? [00:22:56] Chris: You’re getting ahead [00:22:58] Brad: of me. Sorry. Yes. Sorry. That’s the next thing. One of the biggest flaws I [00:23:01] Chris: have. [00:23:02] Brad: Thank you. Surfing really just evolved into a surf community. And there’s many, like, players. And I’m thankful. [00:23:07] Chris: And we’re all thankful. Ah, [00:23:09] Brad: thank [00:23:09] Chris: you. Thank you, surfing. Thank you, surfing. So nice to see you. [00:23:12] Chris: That’s really kind of cool. Thank you, surfing. [00:23:13] Brad: So, there’s surf shops, there’s surf photographers, there’s surfers, there’s all the places you go to eat next to the shop, or you know, next to the beach you go surf at. I mean, there’s like, I could probably go down the whole coast and tell you where to get a good sandwich in every surf spot. [00:23:30] Brad: In the whole state of Florida. [00:23:32] Chris: That’s kind of important. [00:23:33] Brad: Kind of. I mean, you guys said to me, like, [00:23:34] Chris: what am I going to go eat? Oh, it’s public subs again, which publics, dude, your subs killing. But it’d be nice to know if there’s another [00:23:41] Brad: cool place. Ambiance. And then like when you go up coast and then you stay overnight, if you’re going to go say like way up to a satellite or something, where do you go? [00:23:50] Brad: Right. I mean, Although up in satellite, I feel like they’d be on every block. [00:23:54] Chris: Yeah. [00:23:56] Brad: It’s kind of a circuit town. Yeah, it is. It’s kind of hard to go wrong in satellite. [00:23:59] Chris: No, yeah, no. Well, [00:24:02] Brad: but anyway, yeah, definitely need to get more involved in the community. I want to get shop owners, talk about the shops, the communities of the shops in what’s happening in their neighborhood. [00:24:12] Brad: Take pictures of the shop. What’s the merchandise that’s in there, how it all looks. Yeah. And the other thing is, like I said, with, uh, you know, the photographers, I don’t really tell them what to send us. And so when I tell you to send me pictures, I have no idea what I’m gonna get. Which is cool. It’s so fun. [00:24:28] Brad: I love opening up the submissions every time. I don’t know been following the Instagram stories, but I I’ve been filming when I open them and I’m like, oh all South Beach or the I just got another one today up from New York Eric Schwab sent me some stuff and You know like the slurpee wave that went viral, right? [00:24:51] Brad: Yeah, little slush buckets. Homeboy’s got a picture of this wave That’s completely Yeah Sludgy frozen over breaking. That’s not [00:24:58] Chris: shore break. ’cause I feel like all of ’em were like shore break slush shots. Okay. They were, you’re not, you’re not happy. Happy. Like [00:25:04] Brad: he wants like overhead slush waves. I [00:25:06] Chris: mean, if you’re gonna, you know, [00:25:08] Brad: what if Kelly sleds wave pool freezes there, we have might have something seven 11 slush slush cities. [00:25:15] Brad: Seven 11 come in sponsored. You can get Slurpee waves. The whole contest. Praise, I mean. Every time I see those videos, all I think about is like these Ford Vita Pups and those things. Yes. But I mean, [00:25:28] Chris: that, that is kind of cool when you’re, I mean, it’s, it, it is communal, right? It is, it’s, it’s all about like, from what you were saying, the photographers locally that we have that are kind of all just sharing information and whatnot, and not making it kind of one of these like competitive things down to, uh, surf shops. [00:25:42] Chris: Like I own a lot of sports in North Miami and myself, we’ve been close friends forever. Scott’s one of my best friends. I used to go to his shop when I was 12. Scott, I just ate, I just ate at you right now, buddy. Um, We didn’t really date, you know what I mean, right? So going back into it, I know it’s so weird. [00:25:59] Chris: Well, delve deeper into that on another episode of this. While we’re both at Expo. Um, but besides that, we don’t compete. We, we kind of share notes, you know, and it’s one of those, like the, the business market in general is kind of, it’s tough out there, you know, and it’s forced, especially brick and mortar. [00:26:15] Chris: Um, so for everybody and whatever we do, and it’s a lot easier when we, when we Pull each other in for hugs, and then kind of block each other with Walls. Walls. Trump, I know you’re watching too, buddy. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Oh, I saw DeKind Diego’s from Strictly C. Yes, I love that wave. Bucket list is a slurpy wave. [00:26:36] Chris: Yeah, Strictly Wave, right there. Strictly C. No, you said DeKind Diego’s is [00:26:40] Brad: a wave. [00:26:41] Chris: Uh, restaurant. Love that restaurant. [00:26:43] Brad: Yes, yes. Perfect example. That’s my spot to go get, well, I’m gonna get a sandwich there, but [00:26:47] Chris: Make a good movie. I’ve done a couple of premieres here. It’s pretty fun. Back in the days when Lost was doing their crazy stuff. [00:26:55] Chris: Yeah, [00:26:58] Brad: exactly. That’s the kind of stuff that I’m talking about though. Like, there is this whole little network and um, you know, how do you hear about spots to go surf? Or how do you hear about a place to go eat? Or how do you hear about that bar to go grab a beer at? The, whatever, the swap shop that’s in like Cocoa Beach where you can buy like a new, uh, used board for 50 bucks. [00:27:21] Brad: Something like this. It’s just, it’s just not out there. [00:27:24] Chris: Right, because you can’t necessarily do a complete Google search. You kind of have to do it on like a full on Google hunt. If you really kind of want to get those things and at the end of the day, it’s like, I’d rather go straight to the horse’s mouth and kind of get what the locals want to do, right? [00:27:36] Chris: Whenever you travel to somewhere else, you’re like, I don’t want, you know, I mean, maybe you do want to stay where all the tourists stays, but sometimes you just want to kind of do what the locals do, you know, and just be like, you know, I just want to downsize things. I don’t want to stress about it, but I want to do what you’re doing because obviously you know what you like. [00:27:52] Brad: Yeah. Basically, I mean, you can stereotype surfers to a large extent in terms of the activities that we’d like to pursue. You want to be close to the beach when you wake up, where do you stay? Right. You know, you want to go eat at a place. I mean, generally surfers tend to be healthier now, right? More environmentally conscious. [00:28:14] Brad: Um, they like hanging out outdoors, [00:28:17] Chris: which is always crazy, right? As surfers that the crafts that we surfed on were so not environmentally conscious for the longest time. [00:28:26] Brad: There’s a topic, huh? [00:28:27] Chris: Yeah. I mean, I can go for a long time. [00:28:29] Brad: Yeah, [00:28:30] Chris: I mean from where foams were coming from for what, um, Clark foam had to deal with out in California and, you know, I mean to, unfortunately the carcinogens that come from it and cancer and blah, blah, blah. [00:28:40] Chris: And there’s a lot of people that are looking, I know. And there’s a lot of people like Kelly Slater and stuff like that that are, and other people out there that are making pushes towards trying to make it as green as possible, but it’s still [00:28:50] Brad: Biofoam is pretty incredible. I was just reading an article the other day about how they’re trying to get rid of all the waste. [00:28:56] Brad: I can’t remember the name of the folks, but. Um, yeah, they basically have like worms eating the, uh, the waste from surfboard for production. You know what I’m talking about? Yes. I’m sure you saw it. I think I’ve seen that. What did I [00:29:11] Chris: just see recently? Did I see it? That was, uh, scraps and waste of foam going into, um, tiles. [00:29:21] Chris: Right? [00:29:22] Brad: I saw that. Right? I think it was Kelly. Yeah. Hey. It was I think it was Firewire, wasn’t it? Yeah, [00:29:33] Chris: I think it was [00:29:35] Brad: Firewire. [00:29:36] Chris: Firewire, Slater Surfboards, and they were, they were, they were taking the excess waste and they were kind of crushing it down and turning it into, um [00:29:42] Brad: I saw people do that whole thing before. [00:29:44] Brad: Yeah. The impact of, uh, our The environmental impact of surfing is, I guess, something that’s being debated more now. Right. And so you have something like that where you take all that Craft that you’ve, uh, Made with really harmful materials and they’re like, Oh, let me like put this sawdust from this crap together and then we’ll put it into tiles and then we’re going to ship it across the world. [00:30:14] Brad: And you’re like, you know what? That carbon footprint of what you [00:30:16] Chris: just shipped [00:30:17] Brad: over there, you might as well just throw out that stuff. Right. I don’t know. I’m not an expert in this. Actually, I was talking to Katie from Debris Free Oceans about a similar concept today. [00:30:26] Chris: At Debris Free. [00:30:27] Brad: At Debris Free. [00:30:28] Chris: Awesome people. [00:30:29] Brad: Yeah, [00:30:29] Chris: well, still make a downtown Lowe’s. How are you? Shout outs, you know, DT, um, keep it live. You know, people want to interact, talk to me, say something. I’ll call Kelly. You want to shout out Slater? What’s up? I see you following. [00:30:48] Brad: I was looking right now. They’re like, Oh my God, he’s on there. [00:30:51] Brad: Just kidding. He’s not Kelly Slater does not follow this account yet. Yeah. Not yet, but you know, he does now. Ben gravy. Yeah, he was out here and now I think he wants to be checking thank you serving to get dialed in on that misto It’s kind of sad when the novelty wave king starts following your account because he considers your home spot, which I consider a surf spot, a novelty. [00:31:18] Brad: Gravy trumpets, one of those bittersweet sort of moments where you’re like, Oh, Oh, sound like a bad guy. [00:31:24] Chris: But you know, we are, we are the unicorn in the surf world. Like there is pros of all different types and sizes that are just like, I need to surf that wave. I need to catch that place fine because they’ve seen pictures and they’ve heard stories. [00:31:37] Chris: Yeah, [00:31:38] Brad: like, look at the local lens from today, uh, indeed. [00:31:40] Chris: Yeah, it was [00:31:42] Brad: so good. Third, it makes you think that we actually live at a surf spot. And like, and not even like a crap surf spot, like one of the best surf spots ever. [00:31:50] Chris: Right, and that’s the thing, maybe that’s, maybe that was the deal and the devil that we got with having, with living in Miami Beach. [00:31:55] Chris: Maybe we couldn’t have great waves because we had everything else that was great. And they’d be like, dude, if we gave you great waves, everybody would hate us. And I was like, who’s us? Anyways, but besides that Besides that it’s just like, you know, way more crowded than it is now And whenever the waves kick up if you’ve been surfing around here, you know, it gets crowded [00:32:14] Brad: and it has been since the 60s. [00:32:16] Chris: Yeah [00:32:17] Brad: Amazing. I love looking at those old photos. It’s [00:32:19] Chris: so good and just hearing the old stories surf shop stories everything You know what? Maybe next week while we’re up in orlando. Oh, yeah, [00:32:26] Brad: I would definitely have to get to talk to the folks up there very interesting folks in the surf industry And they’ll all be there. [00:32:36] Chris: I feel accomplished. I feel accomplished this week. There’s something great about Fridays. You kind of end cap things, you have a beer, you kind of wind down, you recap the whole week, you’re like, whatever, I’m going to go into this weekend, I’m going to recharge the batteries, I’ll be here tomorrow, 9 to 7, 10 to 7, if anybody wants to swing by, talk some more story. [00:32:54] Chris: Um, and then we start again on Monday. And then we got, you know, the rest of the week to do some work, and then we go to Expo and we have some fun. Expo’s going to [00:33:01] Brad: be Interesting. That’s what I’m putting in. I have no idea what to expect anymore from Expo. You’ve totally changed my mind on what I thought was going to happen there. [00:33:11] Brad: It’s a [00:33:13] Chris: little bit more of an adult Expo. It’s not as, it’s not as young and youthful as it used to be. Um, but we’re all still kind of figuring things out. Sorry. [00:33:20] Brad: I got like all these safety pins to pierce my nose. I have the wrong look. [00:33:24] Chris: Yeah, full on hot topic, huh? [00:33:30] Chris: Junkos and all that, you know. Those are coming back, I hear you. I hope not, please. God, are we that bored with fashion that we gotta bring Junkos back? Jeez. Who do you mean fashion? We should get some fashion people coming through here too. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Maybe we can get Paul Naldi of this look. [00:33:48] Chris: You know, get him up there while they’re like, you look, Paul, we’re doing something fun. Want to jump in on it? He seems to know what’s up. Oh, and he’d be stoked to do it. So you never know. Check in next Friday. All right. Let’s let’s close this thing out. Let’s close it out. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. [00:34:02] Chris: Surfing. You’re welcome. Uh, first surf shop division. Wynwood follow us all stay tuned. This is Chris. I’m Brad. I think we’re going to be doing this [00:34:13] Brad: regularly.